In his famous article in 1950 Alan Turning proclaimed: "I believe that by the end of the
century ... one will be able to speak of machines thinkingwithout
expecting to be contradicted." Clearly the famous Turing got it wrong (Tom Melzer, G2, 18 June). And even if the Turing test had
been passed, he would still have been wrong. The Turing test is the
crudest of behavourism. In my lifetime Turing has gone from obscurity to
awe-inspring icon, but this seems to be exaggerated. He certainly did
good work on the notion of computability, though that was based on
something much more fundamental called Godel's theorem. It doesn't seem to be true that he was
the inventor of the computer, though again he did good work on early
versions of programming computers. I can't comment on his contribution
to breaking the German codes, since none of the accounts I've seen
explain exactly how they did it. But I understand that it took them a
long time, and that when they'd done it, Doenitz became suspicious and
changed all the codes. It is perhaps time for a more balanced view of
Turing.
Roger Schafir
London
Letter to The Guardian.
Interesting, though I'm way too dumb to verify most of this.
One might also contest Alan Turing's elevation to the status of great gay martyr; he died more than a year after he'd stopped the hormone treatment, we do not know for certain if he took his own life (he left no suicide note, and there is evidence he may have been poisoned by a "nutty professor" home experiment), and he appeared to be quite happy being gay - indeed, it was his shamelessness which meant he shopped himself to the police.
Whatever, I shall happily be joining in the celebrations of Alan Turing's 100th birthday tomorrow.
Update Saturday 23rd: 'Alan Turing: Inquest's Suicide Verdict 'Not Supportable'. BBC News. Told ya!
One of many impressive, wide-ranging and accessible articles about Alan Turing for the centenary on the BBC website. Kudos to them.
There's a more boffiny collection of articles on the science bits at Wired.com.
Polari Magazine online have also published several articles - much of it interesting and thoughtful, but they do tend to obsess on getting an official pardon and some kind of memorial (The fourth plinth of Trafalgar Square! A bank note!).
I doubt that Turing would have been bothered about such things.
Update 2: Turing Committed Suicide: Case Closed Very good breakdown by the producers of Codebreaker.
Friday, 22 June 2012
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Schafer is wrong about everything.
ReplyDeleteThe Turing test isn't a form of behaviorism, because it makes no assumption about what is, or isn't, going on inside a person's mind when they act. The test is just a rough-and-ready way to measure how close a computer comes to the appearance of thinking, without making any assumptions about what thinking is, "behind the scenes".
Turings work on computability wasn't "based on" Goedel's theorem, whatever that might mean. It provided an answer to David Hilbert's tenth problem - the question of whether one algorithm could predict whether another algorithm would reach an answer to a given question.
Turing's negative conclusion could be viewed as Goedel's conclusion, reached from a different direction.
Turing has been called "the inventor of the computer", and so has John von Neumann, J Prepser Eckhardt, Tommy Flowers, Charles Babbage, Herman Hollerith and many others. The computer had no single inventor, but Turning's claim to providing the first abstract definiton of a general purpose symbol manipulating machine is just as good as any of these others.
If Schafir hasn't read any explanations of how the Bletchly code-breakers worked, it's becase he hasn't read anything about the subject. It's all public domain and not complex.
In short, Schafir knows almost nothing, and what he does know he badly misunderstands.
Happy birthday to Alan Turing.
(The Captcha for this is: Inverts. Perhaps the internet has acquired sentience, and a sense of humour.)
Thanks for that.
DeleteKapitanonever no mention of Augusta King, countess of lovage and her brillant work with Babbage over a hundred years before Turing. And how the US defence system used her work later/now.
ReplyDeleteSexist bastards :)
ReplyDeleteDidn't his arrest and forced treatment make him a martyr? Not just the possible "suicide"?
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