'Mr Cameron sought to reassure his audience that the proposals would "change what happens in a register office, not what happens in a church".
Addressing recent attempts to ban crucifixes and public prayer, Mr Cameron said, pumping his fist in the air: 'I think there's something of a fightback going on, and we should welcome that.
'"The values of the Bible – the values of Christianity – are the values that we need."
The Daily Mail.
Fagburn has a feeling this is the first time that Mr Cameron has made any public mention of gay marriage since his fabled conference speech last year.
Be interesting to see how he tries to square this circle.
Well obviously, when I say "interesting", I mean "hilarious".
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Or something like that.
Update: There's a transcript of Cameron's speech and an incisive commentary by Terry Sanderson of the National Secular Society here.
Sanderson calls it "an unctuous speech of such disingenuousness and hypocrisy that it almost takes the breath away."
None of today's papers mentioned the following;*
'Perhaps the most telling part of the speech is about his
conflict with religion over gay marriage. He hopes that the religious
leaders he is addressing will not be too harsh. And just in case they
won't let up in their relentless and unpleasant campaigning against gay
rights, he throws out a hope to them that he might give in to their
bullying. "If this doesn't go ahead, to those of us who'd like it to go
ahead, there will still be civil partnerships, so gay people will be
able to form a partnership that gives them many of the advantages of
marriage," he says.
'It is at this point that gay
couples who had hoped to tie the knot can start to take down the bunting
and cancel the wedding cake order.
'It is the first
inkling that the promises he made to the gay community are very likely
to be betrayed..."
So we're back now to not "how", but "if" same-sex marriage would be implemented.
As I've said here before with Cameron now under siege and the Coalition in crisis, I wouldn't be surprised if gay marriage is now left to die on the vine.
But then I've never been convinced it was ever really a priority for the Conservatives.
* Correction - The Times had the quote, but failed to note its import. Apologies.
But then I've never been convinced it was ever really a priority for the Conservatives.
* Correction - The Times had the quote, but failed to note its import. Apologies.
I wonder if Terry Sanderson isn't making too much of this remark. After all, Cameron can't guarantee that gay-marriage legislation will get through, especially through the Lords, where no doubt the bishops will be out in force to urge rejection. And I suppose that on such an occasion as the one at which he made the speech, it would be a matter of courtesy to speak as though discussion is continuing, even if the government were determined to try to push gay marriage through. And since the results of the consultation haven't been published yet, it might be thought to be jumping the gun to speak as though gay marriage were going ahead anyway.
ReplyDeleteI think TS is correct to say this is significant.
ReplyDeleteAs so much was made at the launch of the consultation of how this was going to be introduced whatever, they just wanted to discuss the details - this is even stated in the Ministerial Forward to the consultation document - http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/about-us/consultations/equal-civil-marriage/
Though to state this in a "consultation document" always struck me as most odd...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/obama-cameron-and-their-evolution-on-marriage-equality/2012/04/03/gIQAgtHetS_blog.html
ReplyDeleteAnother one that has ballooned.
ReplyDeleteI think it will become law. It could not, for example, become legal in Scotland and not England and Wales. I imagine some holy joes will be outed to liven things up. They’ve gone a bit quiet already.
ReplyDeleteI agree - if it becomes legal in Scotland it'll be pivotal - probably the one thing that makes it most likely to happen in England & Wales, as it will look so incongruous and... silly.
DeleteBut the Tories will have to timetable legislation.