Good Morning Britain: A Heated Debate

The Archbishop of York became embroiled in a heated television debate with Piers Morgan this morning over gay marriage.

Archbishop John Sentamu appeared on the ITV show to promote his reasons to vote remain in the upcoming EU referendum but the topic soon moved on to the Orlando massacre.

MailOnline columnist Mr Morgan, 51, asked the religious leader about the church's views on gay marriage following Sunday's attack, which took place in a gay club in Florida.

Dr Sentamu, 67, was forced to deny that the church was homophobic and insisted that he has lots of gay friends - and he was particularly unimpressed when Mr Morgan compared homophobia to racism.

The MailOnline columnist said: 'What if I said to you that you can come to this country as a Ugandan born man but because of the colour of your skin you can only have a civil partnership, you can't have a real one.

'No, some of my relations died on the ships. Slavery was a very wrong thing.'

Dr Sentamu insisted that while he is not in favour of gay marriage due to his religious beliefs, he is not homophobic and he wants to support the LGBT community.

He said: 'I've got a lot of gay friends and they see me as a friend, as someone who wants to support and defend them against homophobia.

'Not supporting gay marriage does not equal homophobia.'

Mr Morgan said: 'You've taken a pretty strong stance against gay marriage. Is it about time that religious leaders from all faiths came together and were more tolerant generally towards homosexuality?'

But the archbishop replied: 'You can still have your view, in terms of teaching the church's position on marriage and at the same time be intolerant of those who are homophobic.

'The church's teaching on marriage between a man and a woman is very clear. I support civil partnerships because for me that's a matter of equality, a matter of fairness

'My upholding of Christian marriage as I understand it goes hand and hand with saying to people that to diminish homosexual people is anathema to the Christian faith because God loves us all equally.'

Mr Morgan was undeterred and asked: 'Is homosexuality a sin?'

The archbishop said: 'I would never say that. I will never say that because sin is doing something consciously against god.' 

Mail online.

The unspeakable in pursuit of the unspeakable etc.

Orlando: Tragedy

The mayor of Orlando described the shooting deaths of 50 people in a gay nightclub yesterday as something that “we never imagined and is unimaginable”. It was the worst mass shooting in American history but the mayor was wrong. It was all too imaginable.

From the first shots, barely distinguishable from the pounding music, to the panicked phone calls and the images of the dead and wounded, the process that these atrocities set in motion is horrifyingly familiar. The grieving will take decades, by which time successive massacres will have eclipsed the public’s memories of this one.

Twice as many innocents died in the Pulse nightclub early on Sunday as at Sandy Hook elementary school in Connecticut four years ago. That was the last time the White House and its allies were moved to try to galvanise support for reform of US gun laws. Whether they will try again now remains to be seen, but the Pulse shooting challenges the United States in more ways than by dint of sheer body count. It brings together America’s anguished, heart-on-sleeve debates on gun rights, gay rights, civil rights and terrorism, all at one suburban crime scene.

This mass murder poses a test, first of all, for law enforcement. Local politicians and the FBI suggested that Omar Mateen, identified by police as the dead gunman, may have been a “lone-wolf” terrorist acting with the encouragement of Islamist extremists. If so it would not be surprising.

Since the murder of 14 people by Islamists in California last December, Isis leaders have urged other followers abroad to attack civilian targets when military ones are too heavily protected. Yet this was a gay club on gay pride weekend. The suspect’s father said that his son had recently been angered by the sight of two men kissing in Miami. Discerning the precise motive will do little to console the bereaved, but it might help police to protect the public and politicians to protect the traditions of tolerance that most Americans hold dear.

Times editorial.  

Brace yourself for a tidal wave of sentimental vomit on this.

Edit: We have a winner! This boo hoo squish squish solipsistic guff from Laurie Penny is one of the most barftastic things you'll read.

PS Tuesday's Guardian editorial; Homophobia after Orlando: to fix it, we must first face it.